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| Torn ACL My 8 year old beagle, Ashley marie, tore her leftacl while running to greet me at the door the other night, her doctor yesterday placed her on Deramax for 2 months, and wants her kept "quiet" with no running/jumping, etc. She loves to play with her toys, and loves to cuddle up. I can keep her activity to a minimum, her doctor wants to see if the meds and rest can help mend her acl, if not, then she will have the surgery, am I goin down the right path? esp. with the medication? Do they make any leg braces for dogs to keep the leg immobilized while healing? Aldo, I understand Stop & Shop and Pets Mart sell vitamins to help with bone/muscle strength/rebuild. Should I put her on this as well? Thanks everyone!! |
| my lab had the surgery and the results were good, but it was VERY invasive and painful. there is a knee brace--see woundwear.com--not cheap, but much less money than the surgery and not painful. I have heard that this is a good alternative |
| I need help my dogs lHi, my dog had his rear leg apputaded, in June of 07 and his other leg is weak and not getting any stronger, I'm looking for a soft brace to help him with strength that is bendable so he can go potty. Can you help me or direct me to someone who can. You know how we can have knee braces that you can get at Walgreens, what about a doggie version. He is a rottweiler. Thanxs so much for your time, Kim Brunnworth |
| I have an 9 year old golden retriever with a torn acl according to the vet she needs surgery. How do you really know if she needs surgery? Can you tell by an x-ray? I would much rather not at 9 years old but what other options do I have and what are the chances for a good recovery at her age? Please help Denise |
| I have a Boxer that has a torn CCL and has regined about 30% of the use of the leg without surgery. I'm giving him glucosamine and fish oil and it seems to be helping. I'm going to get him a knee brace for stabilization of the knee. Do you have any suggestions for me? |
| My baby, (an 8 yr. old beagle) had a torn acl in one leg, and I listened to my vet and waited to see if it would get better. It did not. My beagle eventually tore the acl in the other leg. I went thru the agony of what to do last year. I was blessed to find a much less expensive doctor to perform the surgeries. I was first quoted $2, 500.00 per leg for the TPLO. The next quote from the second doctor $1, 700.00 per leg. My final surgeon performed it (the old fashioned surgery) for $850.00 per leg. Spunky is doing fine now, running around the house and the opposite dog that I had last year this time. Check with other vets for referrals. But get references!! Be careful not to wait too long before surgery, because you could possibly end up with surgery on both legs. Care Credit was an option for financing. |
| I HAVE A 7 YR OLD PIT/ENGLISH BULLDOG MIX I RESCUED BACK IN DECEMBER 08 WHO WAS MORBIDLY OBESE, MISTREATED, AND LOADED WITH HEARTWORMS. JUST NOW AFTER FINISHING THE 2ND ROUND OF HEARTWORM TREATMENTS AND GETTING NEARLY 15LBS OFF MY BEAUTIFUL GIRL "MOMMA" SHE TORE HER LEFT ACL. FORTUNATELY I'M AN ORTHO NURSE AND WORK IN THE OPERATING ROOM WITH MANY AWESOME ORTHOPEDIC SURGEONS. UNFORTUNATELY MOMMA HAS NO OTHER OPTION BUT SURGERY. SHE DOES HAVE THE OPTION OF EITHER THE TPLO OR THE MUCH LESS EXPENSIVE SURGERY WHICH IS BASICALLY A SUSPENSION SUTURE STABILIZING THE CRUCIATE LIGAMENT POSTERIORALLY FOLLOWED BY BRACING ALLOWING IT TO HEAL. I CHOSE THIS AFTER CONSIDERING MOMMA'S AGE AND LIFESTYLE. I WORK 3-4 12 HOUR SHIFTS AND MY 2 DOGS HAVE BECOME "COUCH POTATOES" EXCEPT FOR MY DAYS OFF. AS MENTIONED BY SOMEONE ELSE, REALLY EXPLORE YOUR OTHER OPTIONS, SEE OTHER VETS; MINE HAPPENS TO BE ONE OF MY VERY BEST FRIENDS, BARGAIN SHOP, WHICH I KNOW IS A HARD THING TO DO WHEN YOUR BEST FRIEND IN THE WHOLE WORLD IS FEELING BAD. GOOD LUCK TO YOU AND YOUR FURRY FRIEND. ANGIE |
| Hi John - Our dog actually had the same problem (she was about 5 1/2 when it happened) and my wife and I put up an entire site dedicated to the problem as we've found that many people are going through the same problems. Check out our link below, hopefully you will find some helpful information. And just for your info, we went for the surgery immediately (about a week after the injury) because we have a very active dog and adding any time to the surgery recovery would have been very tough to do. I hope this helps! Best of luck. |
| I see where a lot of people have concerns about having knee surgery on their dogs--I have had 3 dogs that have had the surgery(one quite extensive)and have had excelent results each time. |
| You do not have to have surgery on ACLs. However, the knee will only get worse resulting with excrutiating pain and the need to put your dog to sleep. At some point pain medicine will stop helping. No ACL tear will repair itself with surgery, what happens is the knee will eventually stabilize because arthritis builds up around the joint. This is only useful in dogs under 10 pounds and as many people know there is still a lot of pain associated with arthritis. Surgery does not have to be very invasive, a specialist can sometimes do it with a scope, but this is much more costly. A brace is a poor substitute, but can help while you save money for surgery...expect to spend between $400-$1000 for a good brace (it is best to fore-go the brace and just save that money for surgery). I have researched all of this as I have had to repair 3 knees on my pups. Not easy on the wallet, but much better then seeing them suffer. |
| My 23 lb.dog just got diagnosed with acl. They quoted me 2, 000.00 dls. That is so much money. I'm wondering if i give it a little time and keep him down and rested with medication and a soft ace bandage just maybe he'll improve. I don't know what to do as of yet. This is my first day and I will do my homework and make a decision fairly soon. any suggestions or input will be greatly appreciated. thanx |
| "Concerned Owner"
My almost 9 year old black lab just tore his ACL today. We're comtemplating surgery for him, because he is still full of energy and we don't want to see him in a lot of pain. I asked his vet if he were his dog what would he do and he said he'd elect for the dog to have surgery. Looking for some advice and pros and cons of the surgery. If it gives him 6-8 more years of running around and having fun I'm all for it, but I don't want him to be in un necessary pain. Looking for thoughts.Thanks! |
| "A comfortable Neoprene brace for injured knees"
My name is Daryllanne Franks and I wanted to introduce myself and my website www.muttkneebrace.com. This is not advertising but letting dog owners know that an affordable, effective knee brace is now available.Over the last several years we have developed a comfortable neoprene knee brace for injured canine knees. Two months ago we completed our website and have begun marketing our MuttKnee Brace online. To our knowledge, there is not another product like ours available. Well over 50 dogs of all sizes, ages, and health conditions have benefitted from our brace in the last couple of years with dramatic improvement in their quality of life. Its tremendously gratifying to be able to help these hurting dogs. We are a family of rescue dog owners and 2 of our dogs injured and tore their acl. We developed the MuttKnee Brace to help our dogs and now family, friends, and online friends have been using them with terrific results. So far we haven't found a dog that didn't improve their quality of life wearing our brace. |
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| "Torn ACL and Deramax"
My 9 year old lab had a torn ACL and was on Deramax for 3 months that eventually led to an ulcerated stomach and ultimately his death because of this medicine. Please investigate what the medicine may possibly do to your animal - dog or cat. He went downhill very quickly in one weekend and after $3500 in vet bills he died. It was heartbreaking and I do not want anyone to go through this. Please just investigate any meds your animal is on or may be put on for an ailment. |
| "Husky with previously torn ACL / surgery"
I recently found your website/blog and was hoping to find some answers t o our current predicament.Of course it too deals with a torn ACL and my wife and I seem to run into a wall with nowhere to turn. Let me begin, we rescued a husky mix pup who had a severe case of heartworm and about to be put down by the humane society. We brought her home, took and nursed her back to health. Things ran fine until our other husky decided to get over aggressive and chased her down only to bite her leg resolving in a torn ACL/knee. We tried the brace for about a week and eventually went for surgery because she appeared to be in a lot of pain. 2 separate vet reviews and we paid about $1400 and it appeared to have helped but never really the same. Just like a previous post our dog became a coach potate and refused any types of walks as things went on. Two years later her situation has seemed to gotten worse. She is having a very difficult time to get out of bed and is starting to groan with signs of pain. Since the surgery we have been giving her Metacam (twice a week) and now having to up the dose. Any suggestions or alternative paths to help? Thanks |
| "ACL opperation"
Over 6 months i noticed my dog was limping when he got up after a few steps he got ok. Then recently he started lifting it up and not bearing all weight on his right leg. I took him to the vet last week and he said it may be a ACL tear and he will need surgery, not a TPLO but his surgey which would only cost me £500 so he was booked in for monday just gone. When i went back for him he had not done the operation he said he did not need it yet but probably will in about 6 months. So does this mean my dog has not ruptured his Ligament?? but we did see other problems on his xrays like, a larger hipbone on the left and his bones under his knee joint are more bent than normal and he has swelling on the knee and probs arthritis. He also said his other knee may go in 6 to 12 months and my dog has to loose weight to ease the leg. He is a 2 year old rottwieler whom i luv so much and dont want to have him in any pain at all. He is on 50ml of pain meds a day (loxicom) for the next three weeks. So has his ligament tore or not ????? and if it has why did he not opperate i dont get it. |
#17Rebecca K Hallowell, Me | "Beautiful Beagle with two ACL repairs within weeks of each other"
I don't know where to start, my beautiful 11 year old beagle cme up from the yard with a limp, thought maybe something was in his paw. The next day he was still limping, i took him to my vet. He checked out(no x-rays), said bring him back in 4 days. They did not have an opening so I broughthim back in 6. He conmfirmed the torn ACL, referred me to a Dr. in Norway Maine tht specializes in this. Wasn't until approx 4 weeks later(the only opening they had was two weeks after me first visit to my vet) did Jacque have his surgery. Was doing great two weeks later, then one moment, still on a leash of course (mandatory for 8 weeks after surgery)and lots of bed rest did he come up limping on the other leg. Very disappointing! Hate to see that loving, happy beagle in discomfort and have to go through ALL the invasive surgery again. The point I am making is insist that someone look and follow up on the injury promptly so that it doesn't result in unneccessary strain on the other limp, AND doesn't result in double surgeries. It is also VERY demanding and time consuming to the owner of the dog, you must plan accordingly and with LOTS of common sense when it comes to rehabilitating the dog. ie; lesh at all times, no steps, no slick floors(use throw rugs with rubber backing so they dont slip), don't over feed, don't let other dogs be in the area for fear they will either step on them or want to play, no children that are unsteady around the animal... So sad |
| "2 year old american bulldog needs acl surgery"
Our 2 year old american bull dog had acl surgery on her left knee 4 months ago. The surgery was so hard on her and very long, painful recovery. She is doing much better but now the right knee needs surgery and they want to re-operate on the left knee. This would cost about $10, 000. Plus the poor gal already has some arthrytus. We love her so much and are getting her a doggie wheelchair or a knee brace to see if it helps. Besides the cost, we don't want to put her through another year of pain so we have decided to give her the best life we can without surgery. It's a tough decision and sometimes you can't base it on the cost alone, but the quality of the dogs life. |
| "Worried about surgery for older dogs"
My dog just tore his ACl and I have been faced with a costly and invasive decision whether to go ahead with surgery or not. My dog is 10 1/2 and I wonder if surgery is dangerous? I have heard of dogs also healing from these injuries on their own. On the flipside, I also hear it will end up being a lifetime of pain without the surgery. What's a girl to do? |
| "2 Torn ACL's at different times. "
Tasha my 5 yr old mutt (Collie, Husky, and German Shepard) tore her hind left and 3 months later tore her right(as did her sister, we were told). Was told she needed surgery by everyone except by one nurse at an Pet ER over the phone and she suggested patience, weightloss, and diet. It worked! In approx. 8 weeks we were letting her walk very carefully, slowly, with the aid of a towel lifting her hind legs. Now, although she can run, we don't encourage it, but we take her for walks and she's quite content. We were very fortunate to have such a successful outcome. |
| "Jack's Dad"
Back in 2004 I choose TPLO for my boy Jake. He was a 150lb Rottweiler how had torn both CCLs. Jake went through the surgery fine, but little did I know that cancer is a very realy reality after these surgeries. My boy died on Thanksgiving evening in 2005, just a little over a year after the surgery. He was 8 years old.Now, 2010 I have another rescue Rottie and he is about 10. He tore his CCL a few months back and there is NO WAY I would put him through what I put Jake through. It is very painful and invasive. It has so many issue and complications. I have out Jack through rehab and looking for stifle braces... one to support the bad knee and one for the good to prevetn tearing. I am sure some dogs fare well with surgery, this is my story and my opinion. Best of luck to all! |
| "Stifle Brace for torn ACL"
Our boxer tore her ACL last year (almost exactly one year ago). We decided to use a stifle brace from orthopets.com It wasn't cheap, but it was much less than surgery and she has done wonderfully. We can't believe that we can take her on 1.5 mile walks, take her to the beach, let her BE A DOG. It is wonderful. |
| "TTA for the win"
Our 1.5 year old Chocolate lab “Mocha Jane” just had TTA surgery one month ago...TTA is still new and not many vets perform this surgery but it is less recovery time and less invasive. Here is our story: Previous to surgery we had thought she had issues with hips (as most labs do) as she didn't run or play as much as her brother (Yellow lab Oakley), she sat differently and had trouble getting up after a nap or sitting for a long period. We bought different things hoping it would help her but we didn't see a change. In September she started to limp and would put no pressure on her right leg, I took her to the first vet I could get into (not our regular vet). He gave her medacam for a week and said x-rays were not needed despite me requesting them. Within in a week she was walking fine again but we were still concerned. During her regular yearly visit in October to our regular vet it was determined there was an issue with the ACL (CCL) and we were sent to a specialist (Dr. Draper). During our initial visit, he could tell right away that something was wrong with BOTH back legs, but the right was worse. He wanted to do x-rays before the surgery to determine the best solution. X-rays could not determine how bad the tear was but he could see that surgery was needed on the right (after surgery we were told it was a 90% tear). Mocha Jane had surgery on November 1st and it was yes a very serious surgery that I was not prepared for the outcome. We dropped her off in the morning and we got to pick her up that evening (no over night stay). Dr. Draper himself called us once surgery was done to let us know how she was and how it went (a very nice touch). When we picked her up she was still a little confused and on pain meds, she was 1/4 shaven and had over 20 staples in her leg... I cried myself. The first week of recovery we would not allow her to walk, she was carried everywhere by her daddy. We also did not leave her alone at all …. we took turns working from home. We followed the after care as per instructions, icing her leg, applying a heating pad...etc. Her first two nights were the worse as she did cry, it broke my heart. She wore her cone only once, her brother cried not her ;-). She did lick her wound a little, but after a few times of telling her no she knew it was not allowed and the cone was not needed. Her staples were removed after 11 days, and her doctor was very happy with her recovery. Now a month later Mocha Jane is a puppy again. She runs and plays with her brother, we limit her playtime and are very careful with her but it is amazing the difference in just a month. To date she does not need therapy or anything else to assist her recovery. Unfortunately the insurance we have on our pups was purchase to late to cover this surgery that cost $3300 (Canadian), and we do plan on have the same surgery on her left leg in a few months (another $3000). I guess that can classify me as a crazy person, but we made scarifies and got the money together for this and we have no regrets what so ever after seeing the difference. We do also have 3 children and are far from being rich! But we took the responsibility of having family pets and they should also receive the best possible care we can give them. We do feed our puppies the higher end food ( Acana - Pacifica ), their treats come from a doggy bakery and we ensure they have sufficient amount of exercise. This may have helped her recovery and also she is very young. But MANY vets are wrong as was the first vet we went to. Another puppy was at the specialist the same day as Mocha, her owner was told nothing was wrong and was sent home with meds by another vet, she got a second opinion and it was a serious complete tear…. Every case is different, and some families just can not afford the high price tag that comes with surgery. I know we couldn’t but I am VERY happy we found a way to make it happy. |
| "Transition period after surgery"
dear Mochas Mom, I appreciated your post and the love you have for your dogs (and tender feelings) Our dog Annie, a Bichon just had surgery 2 weeks ago and we had some similar feelings as well. She just had her stitches out today and got a pressure sore so I think once that is better (the vet says a couple of days) she'll be more frisky. Right now we have to give her a tranquilizer as she frantically wants to lick and chew on her wounds esp the pressure sore. I put a longer post on here about her surgery but hadn't registered yer so don't know if it will get posted. Will wait and see before I re-write it. |
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