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12 week pup goldendoodle that growls and bites tooThis forum post has messages dated from 10/08/07 through 01/11/12, please be sure to read all the messages. If you feel it is old or outdated, please follow up with a question or comment and someone may be able to update it, or reply with newer information if you have it. Dogs - Dogs
| 12 week pup goldendoodle that growls and bites too my husband and I got a goldendoodle from a reputable breeder (recommended by goldendoodle.com). He is 12 weeks old, we've had him for a month now. He is very smart, easy to train and fairly mellow - atleast 80% of the time. But he eats grass and mulch like crazy, when we try to say no, he never listens. So, I had to pull him aside and then he puts a big fight, and growls at me and my husband. This happens almost every other day in the evening time, right before he needs to be feed. I am not sure if his hunger is making him behave like this. He respects us in terms of sitting down before food, walks by our side and obeys most of the commands. Whenever I catch him with the carpet, the minute he hears us saying NO, he stops and sits down, we reward him with treat. He is mellow most of the day. We take him for 25mts walk 3 times a day. He is in his crate for ~3 hours in the morning and 3 hours afternoon. Whenever we get back from work, he is always with us(no crate). He is enrolled in puppy class, our trainer is saying that he is cranky because we put him in crate. I am not sure if this is true, coz, I wfh 3 days a week and he is out most of the time when I am home. We put him in crate only 2 days in a week for ~7 hours(i come home to take him out after 3 hours). He is 22lbs now, so we can pin him down and say NO, but I worry how I can handle when he is fully grown.In puppy class, he tries to dominate the other pups, but when they resist, he backs out. He behaves very well with the trainer and she doesn't see him as a problem. But every time, we have an incident, which is every other day, it worries us. Is he not seeing us as Alpha? Is he aggressive? What do we do to help him out of this behavior? thanks |
| Hello, first thing is first, my pups would not perform like this, but some dogs will push the limits I do not see a problem lets see the dog is 12 weeks old that is 4 months that means the pup is around 2 to 4 in human years, If you have children you will remember what they were a little handful and liked to say NO and put up fits some times. I would respond with a very low voice almost like a growl back at him to let him know that you are not happy with his performance. And if the dog has any willingness to satisfy its owner the pup should feel bad about acting up and slowing stop the sassy behavior. any other questions feel free to contact me and check out my webpage, springfallgoldendoodle .com |
| You need to watch Cesear Millan on the Animal Planet or check his web site. He is a dog and he is testing you. You may need to exercise him more, like running and walking at a fast pace. Dogs are trainable at any age. You have a young dog, who has a lot of potential. Remember some dogs growl out of fear too. Don't assume the worst. Dogs who can't release there energy will act out. Exercise will inprove behavior and give the dog a sense of duty/job. They want to please you. Cesear has books, videos etc. I have learned a lot from his show. I have a fear aggressive German Shephard. She is the pest dog ever!!! But she is afraid of new people, we have learned to deal. Don't give-up. Good Luck and stay Strong!! |
| My dog won't go out when my mam tells him. Whats wrong with him? |
| We have a 9 month doodle, and yes they are crazy dogs. Ours did the exact same thing and yes we spent the big bucks from a reputable breeder as well. In hindsight, or a recommendation, I would not ever buy another one of these dogs again. He constantly eats socks, mulch, grass, toys, whatever he can get his mouth on. Then we get to experience diahrea, vomiting, it is wonderful! I had a golden ret. and never had these issues. I know how to train up a dog, this dog is just nuts. I am not sure what it is, maybe the poodle in them. Please use extreme caution, this is no joke. The dog will push every button, and them some. Thanks for letting me vent! Chris |
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We have an 11 month goldendoodle and he still gets to the mulch every now and then. When he was a puppy everything went in his mouth. My only suggestion is to keep him away from it as best as you can. When their little they want to experience everything and the only way they experience is through touch.As for the pinning and being aggressive... I would never go down that path for training. Once you show aggression and react like that the more likely their going to repeat the behavior to get the reaction. Our trainer recommended a spray bottle with water and that worked for a little bit when he was mis-behaving. We found over time that he'd just end up with a wet face. The must have for training are the air cans you buy for removing dust from your computer. Try to use the spray conservatively and don't yell or say "No" Just Spray! Hope this helps, Ken Principle Officer iBloogle.com |
| "golden doodle attack"
We have a 17 month old male golden-doodle. We love this dog very much and for the most part he is a very good dog. Though I am very concerned we may have to give him up because he has bitten 2 of my children in a very viscous way. While he was chewing a bone all my son did was walk past him and he attacked him. One time he bit my son while he was trying to retrieve a sock from his mouth. They know not to touch him when he is chewing on something but again all my daughter did was to walk in the same room and make eye contact while he was chewing his bone, he got up and bit her twice growling in a vicious manner. It's been 4 attacks altogether in the past year, do we need to give him up? How can we ever trust him! |
| "DON'T GIVE UP!!!!"
I feel so bad for those of you that are having such a hard time with your doodles. They are so worth it so please don't give up. My doodle is 5 1/2 and we went through all this. We also had a rescue that we rehomed in a more suitable only dog home. Here are a few recomendations that really work. Doodle's are very very smart.#1- when you are reprimanding him, use a low growling voice and bare your teeth #2- have your children feed and water him. That shows the dog that they are literally at the bottom of the food chain in your house. Even if you have a toddler, help them to feed the dog. #3- when they really misbehave, bite, snap or bark at your children when not provoked for example, flip the dog over on his back and hold him there while you lean over him reprimanding him. This puts the dog in a very submissive postion letting them know that you are the boss. You can also have a child help you to teach him yet again the dog is not in charge. We have a very well behaved dog now. He did chew things up in the first year, but that does not last. These dogs are so loyal and sweet. If properly trained you could have your child wave food in front of him and without him taking it. We have trained Doodle to even take food gently that if my toddler is feeding him something I can growl "Doodle" and he backs off, even if the food was already in his mouth. I also highly recommend the book "Dog Speak" I was not a dog person and never had one before...it along with training was very helpful. Good Luck!!!! |
| "9 week old mini goldendoodle growls and bites too"
We purchased a male mini goldendoodle from a very reputable breeder 12 days ago at 8 weeks of age. From day 2 and on, he growls and bites at us and his toys or anything he can find. We praise him when he is being good and chewing on appropriate things (Kong, nylabone, toys). The breeder told us to grab his snout and say "No bite" when he mouths or bites us. This did nothing. We then started yelping like a hurt littermate and walking away. This helps some, but a short time later he is biting us again. Our breeder also told us to not take him outside on a leash. He however does not always come when we call him and is getting very fast. We live on a busy corner and no longer trust him. When we put a leash on him, he growls and bites it constantly. I have let him drag it around the house for a while to see if he would get used to it, but it doesn't help. I would like to take him for short walks or a run in our driveway, but all he does is bite his leash or my shoes or pants. I have tried gently putting him on his back and telling him sternly "No bite". He immediatly goes submissive, but returns to biting us. Please help!!!!!!!!! We do love him and he can be sweet and calm, but I am starting to doubt my ability to handle him. He definitely sees me as the alpha more than my kids, but still bites. He growls and is very aggresive with his toys also. |
| "Things do get better with the correct training"
After reading Nithu's post, I feel compelled to respond to her problem. I too, have a goldendoodle (mini) that is now 2 1/2. What she is experiencing, unfortunately, is typical of some goldendoodles. After having a Cavalier King Charles Spaniel (basically a companion dog) for 12 years, our home was just not the same without a dog even though my 3 children were older. ( 1 out of college, and 2 in) My wife and I both had dogs growing up, so getting a dog, training it, etc. was certainly not of any concern. We to, purchased from a reputable breeder. "Sonny" was 12 weeks when we got him. Within 2 days, he started the biting and honestly, my wife was ready to get rid of him within 2 weeks. The biting certainly was not a malicious bite, but rather a teething bite, however, just the same, very annoying to my wife considering puppy teeth are like razors. All puppies chew, however, you have to keep in mind that Golden Retrievers are mouthy by nature. "Sonny" to this day is mouthy. We were able to reduce, notice that I said reduce, his biting by holding his mouth and simply stating in a command voice - "No." You may also find that your puppy will chew things: blankets, pillows, carpet edges, and especially shoes. You should use the same firm "no" command when your dog either does or starts to do any of the above. We also found a product called Bitter Apple (that you can purchase in any pet store) very effective. Just spray it on whatever they pick up immediately after giving the no command. Then put it by the dogs nose. Mine absolutely hates it. However, we have not used it for at least 1 year. To pacify your dogs need to chew, I would suggest getting it a Nylarbone. We get the wishbone style by the case! He goes through one every 2 weeks. When it gets a bit older, I would also recommend large bully sticks - however, watch out where you buy these - you only want "all natural" that can be purchased from bestbullysticks.com in quantity or from your local pet store. You have to keep in mind that a Goldendoodle, whether it be an F1, F2 or F3 etc. is really a mixture of 2 of the top 5 smartest dogs - Golden Retriever and Poodle. They will test you and dominate you until you take full control. They are also very active dogs and if left alone for long periods of time can get into mischief. Although we do have a crate, our dog really did not spend much time in it - he honestly never liked it. In our case, my wife is a stay at home Mom, so there really was no need for him to be in the crate (only very early when he was training) We do leave him alone in the house and have for at least 2 years without any problems. I can honestly say that things do get better as they get older and based on what you have described your dog sounds so much like mine. It will really try your patience at times, however, with the correct training you should be ok. |
| "Help! I love my Doodle, but ............."
Our 5 month old Golden Doodle is a wild child. We have handled the puppy biting and he's starting to calm down a little in that area. However, he still jumps and bites at me (not my husband or friends). I have tried standing like a tree, leaving the area, pushing him back, snapping him on the nose and yelling at him. Standing still only gives him more opportunity to do it more which really pleases him; leaving is almost impossible because as soon as I move, he attacks aggressively - the same with pushing him back. Yelling at him just makes him crazy! Sometimes he charges me, growling and biting. My husband is ready to get rid of him because he says I'm afraid of the dog. Gizmo also jumps on people when they come over. Everyone thinks he's not being trained properly. I try to tell them not to touch or talk to him until he sits, but they don't do it. Gizmo gets so excited it takes him quite a while to actually sit. My husband wants to discipline him physically - take him down, jerk on his leash, grab the nape of his neck, snap his nose, etc... I'm not in favor of any of those methods. Gizmo only reacts by snarling and biting more if that's done. It DOES NOT WORK! But, I can't find an alternative that DOES work. Help! I love this little guy. |
| "Our almost 5 month goldendoodle acts aggressive"
We also have an almost 5 month olds goldendoodle which we got from a breeder at 6 weeks. From the start, he has been "humping" us and biting us to the point that our clothes are ripped and we are bleeding. The more we corrected him (submissive position, holding his snout, etc) the more frantic and crazy he would get...growling, snapping and lunging at us. Except for my husband, who only has to say his name and the dog stops. But he has also started submissive peeing when my husband disciplines him.We have 4 young children and were concerned that he was aggressive so we hired an animal behaviorist to evaluate him. Of course, when she was here, he never attacked us and was well behaved. But we did describe his behavior in detail and she assured us that he was not aggressive but considered us his litter mates and was a very rough player. She recommended always having him on the leash, even in the house, with a gently lead around his snout so that if he starts behaving badly, we can tug his nose down and thus control him. She also said he doesn't react well to corrections and we should spend a lot of our effort with positive reinforcement (lots of praise and treats). We aren't supposed to play with him unless he is in a very controlled setting. For example, I stand in one part of the yard and call him to come. When he does, I have him sit and then reward him with a treat. Then, one of my kids does the same in another part of the yard. We just keep him going back and forth between us always changing our location so it's kind of like a hide and seek for him. Finally, she said to give him a lot of food toys that make him work for his food. It will be good for his brain and tire him out. We use a Kong. Also, she said to socialize him with more dogs so I take him to an all day puppy daycare 2 times a week and the dog park once or twice a week Having learned all this, we are still experiencing problems and my oldest son says "he hates the dog". He was playing in the backyard kicking a soccer ball tonight and the dog got out and attacked him. He literally had him on the ground and was biting him. He had slight bite marks in multiple places on his arm and hands and his coat was ripped. He's 12 and he was scared and crying. We may need to get rid of the dog. I love the dog and he can be very sweet but I don't know if this craziness is his personality and he will never change or we just need to ride it out. Meanwhile, my kids feel cheated out of having a cute, fun puppy to play with. Thanks for letting me vent. We got him in September and I feel like his behavior has controlled our lives. |
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